Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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The full invasion force is not yet in delve. They'll start disappearing a week or two after that.

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Originally by: Kian Jorry

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Originally by: SirMolle

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I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere;
Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.

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Quoted for truth. There will be nothing epic in what will break you.

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Originally by: Peen Long

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I'd like to answer this with a role play.

"Hey Tim my fellow BoB member, isn't this epic and awesome? We are getting fights and fights all the time!"

"Why yes Alexander, I am loving this epicness and non-stop PVP. Hey can you spot me 50mil? In all of this epicness I have lost quite a few ships and haven't had time to replace them since all I care about is epicness and PVP."

"Sure, here is 50mil. I will need it back soon however because in all of this epic pew pew I am sure I will continue losing my ships as well"

"Say, do you think losing over and over will stop being fun at all? I mean sure we get amazing epic PVP fights, however we are losing more and more and how much longer can this go on? It's not going to be fun anymore if we just always lose and even if our alts make money, playing as my industry alt isn't as fun."

"BITE YOUR TONGUE TIM this is what the plan is. We will PVP and lose over and over until we decide to change the plan again to something that makes us look awesome and epic again."

"Thanks Alexander, I have been worried since the other guys left but I guess they just didn't really get the plan. Now I see that no matter how much isk we lose, we can always undock in the always generated newb ship to continue our epic PVP fights. Those will never run out."

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Originally by: Himo Amasacia

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Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:37:51
Anyone eve read spike milligans books on world war 2 where the German leader was screaming at someone and he said "EVERYONE KNOWS WE WONT LOSE THE WAR!! WE WILL COME SECOND!"

Since I cant be bothered clawing my way through the desperate BOB spinning ion this thread, and I cant be assed registering there, I'll just post in response tot he use of He-who-shall-not-be-named's blog on SHC. They dug this up to "prove" that there was a plan to suck all of eve into delve for "epic fights". The first ironic thing is that the blog in question was entitled "Bob is afraid of AAA + Goons + RA + D2"

Problem is from reading said blog (thich no doubt the desperate bob people hoped noone would) the rest of it does not really look like people who are thirsting for a fight. The blog deals with a plan to go up to d2 and fact them in glorious one on one combat to kill their titan in construction... and bring up MC, FIX and LV with them. Typical BOB basically. However the plan was suggested by Chowdown, then leader of LV. However At the 25th of November they were discussing how LV were not going to help them with it and they got all "we are tough, but"

They ignored the fact that LV were busy with Goons and couldn't pry themselves loose as official bob policy still is that the goons and RA are not a threat

Some quotes.

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After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bull**** at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve"

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Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral).

Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely **** all we could do about it for days.

Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact."

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Let me spell it out for the slow. BOB did not go after d2s titan BECAUSE doing so would risk everyone in eve coming and attacking Delve. The war that they now claim they really wanted was the reason that they held off. And they blamed LV for it.

And remember this is from the Blog that they are now using as evidence for their great plan. They did not want that epic fight in delve then and they sure as hell don't want it now. Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to Delve where you can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. They don't want a challenge, a "sticky situation" they want to win at all costs. They say they do here but in game its massive blobs of caps or nothing. There was no plan.

And they have lost. All they can do now is admit it, and spin it.

BOB for silver medal position.

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Originally by: Peen Long

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Originally by: Bone Collector44

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Originally by: Peen Long

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I'd like to answer this with a role play.

"Hey Tim my fellow BoB member, isn't this epic and awesome? We are getting fights and fights all the time!"

"Why yes Alexander, I am loving this epicness and non-stop PVP. Hey can you spot me 50mil? In all of this epicness I have lost quite a few ships and haven't had time to replace them since all I care about is epicness and PVP."

"Sure, here is 50mil. I will need it back soon however because in all of this epic pew pew I am sure I will continue losing my ships as well"

"Say, do you think losing over and over will stop being fun at all? I mean sure we get amazing epic PVP fights, however we are losing more and more and how much longer can this go on? It's not going to be fun anymore if we just always lose and even if our alts make money, playing as my industry alt isn't as fun."

"BITE YOUR TONGUE TIM this is what the plan is. We will PVP and lose over and over until we decide to change the plan again to something that makes us look awesome and epic again."

"Thanks Alexander, I have been worried since the other guys left but I guess they just didn't really get the plan. Now I see that no matter how much isk we lose, we can always undock in the always generated newb ship to continue our epic PVP fights. Those will never run out."

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Besides the fact that I dont know anyone in BoB named Alexander (kinda sounds like a preppy lawyer name, not an AC company owners name) the biggest problem with this is your thinking that most BoB members have lost ISK over the last year. Again, I think you guys are confused.

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So you are telling me that isk is not an issue for every single member of BoB? If not that's great, because Goons plan all along is to have epic PVP fights that never end, so here's to the next four years!

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/01/2008 02:27:30

Well lets take you as a typical BoB player... albeit one on the lower end of the financial scale... as you have stated.

How much isk do you have in your wallet, or alternatively how much are your total personal assets worth? I believe Destructive Influence is not communist based, unlike Evolution so its a valid question.

It would be interesting if you answered truthfully ofc.. just to quantify the situation.

[edit:clarity]

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Originally by: Peen Long

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Originally by: Bone Collector44

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Arent you the same guy who was on another forum saying something about IAC not being able to defend its own space because you had fought "constantly for 2 months" time? Yep, you seem like an expert when it comes to understanding an alliance like ours.

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His post makes sense, yours appears to be more evasion. Care to refute/clarify?

I'm feeding off these rationalizations/evasions. Om nom nom nom nom.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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thread is amusing but irrelevant since we control the propaganda and the media

no one will buy bob's line even without us publishing their ts chats where they moan and groan, their forum posts where they don't obey this party line, or copy and pasting all their e-rage about losing allies and losing regions

its just too stupid to be believed except for those holding the sippy cups of koolaid in delve

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Originally by: Orebuster

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Originally by: Bone Collector44

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I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.

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I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.

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Originally by: Moctobot

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Originally by: Bone Collector44

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Originally by: Orebuster

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Originally by: Bone Collector44

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I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.

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I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.

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Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring...

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have i just witnessed the first iteration of '0.0 sucks anyway' or what

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